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I can't get more explicit than may.

Let's just say it may.

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Who would recognize the shading of the truth that Kennedy was involved in, and who would react with appropriate

iron?" really well done.

Let's listen."

I believe the reporting by the Washington Examiner.

You should read the articles, Chuck.

They're very well documented, and I believe that a Ukrainian district court, in December

of 2018, slapped down several Ukrainian officials for meddling in our election as a violation

of Ukrainian law.

Now, I didn't report those facts.

Reputable journalists reported those facts.

Does that mean that Ukrainian leaders were more aggressive than Russian?

No, Russia was very aggressive, and they're much more sophisticated.

Okay, stop it here.

Up until now, this had been a hard-hitting interview where Todd rightly pushed back on

most of Kennedy's descriptions and characterizations.

He was justifiably skeptical.

Then Kennedy goes all fancy bear on us, and Todd just can't believe it.

Here now is that.

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