From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

It's the Treatment.

I'm Elvis Mitchell.

How best to describe my guest?

Well, since the beginning of the 21st century, he's directed, not including shorts and

miniseries, 30 documentaries.

The subjects range from Jimmy Hendrix to Hunter S. Thompson, Ken Kesey to Falakute,

James Brown to Frank Sinatra, Steve Jobs, to Paul Simon.

You might wonder how he even had time to watch The Sopranos, let alone make a documentary

about it.

He sits down and talks primarily with the show's creator and showrunner, a term that David Chase hates.

David Chase, my guest, of course, is the Academy Award-winning documentary filmmaker, Alex Gibney. Hey, man, how are you?

Good, man. How are you? Good. You've done so many things on creators who actually changed

the way people think about the art. And I wonder when I started to emerge for you.

I don't really know, except that I really like origin films and I really like process films.

And I was drawn initially to doing some docs on music because I'm an utterly inept musician.

But I'm fascinated by the way musicians make music.

So maybe because I can't do it, I'm really interested in those who can. I'm really interested in that creative process. This time, I got to do it with a filmmaker, which was really a joy.

Yeah, a filmmaker who, like so many of the other people you've done these pieces on, found themselves in what is a point where they should be, like,

thinking about doing something else with their lives. I mean, so often these people that

you're attracted to are people who sort of discover a new creative side while they're in the

process of doing what they do on a day-to-day basis. I mean, I think David had come to a dead end. He had

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