How do you prove somebody is human?

It is a surprisingly hard problem.

I think that people are going to start getting accused of being bots.

What we currently see is less than 1% of what it will look like in probably a year or two.

The idea that AGI will lead to some very fundamental shift seems obvious.

The AIs are really good at programming humans. Much better than humans are at programming AIs. Absolutely. And AI will be able to have a GitHub account and will be able to post. And also attest to five other AIs that these are in fact humans and even though they're not. Honestly, if you don't take it serious now, then I think you should get a different job or something. Those agents are very, very clever.

How do you prove you're real?

In 1950, Alan Turing proposed a test.

If a machine could fool a human into thinking it was also human, it had achieved intelligence.

For decades, that remained theoretical.

Today, AI agents run thousands of social media accounts at once,

outperform humans in controlled persuasion tests,

and generate hundreds of videos a day that audiences believe are real.

The Turing test didn't just get passed.

It got commoditized.

Every platform built on the assumption that its users are human

now faces a problem no one has solved.

Facial recognition fails at scale.

Government IDs weren't designed for a global internet.

I speak with Alex Bonja, co-founder and CEO at World,

which is building the largest real human network, a proof of human layer for the AI era, alongside A16Z co-founder and general partner Ben Horowitz.

Alex, welcome to the podcast. Great to have you. Thanks for having me.

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