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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Alec Baldwin's Rust Hits Theaters

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime, News

3.97.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

After two people were shot on the set of  Rust, many predicted that the Alec Baldwin produced movie would simply remain unfinished. 

Director of photography Halyna Hutchins died, and director Joel Souza was wounded. Reports say first assistant director David Halls picked up one of three prop guns set up by armorer Hannah Gutierrez and yelled, “cold gun.”

"Cold gun" is industry slang meaning the gun does not contain live rounds. Halls gave the gun to Baldwin, who used it to rehearse a scene. According to the search warrant, Baldwin aimed the weapon at the camera when he fired, striking Hutchins and Souza.

Reports suggest crew members used the weapon for target practice earlier that morning.

A judge dismissed charges against Baldwin. The actor sued and launched a reality show. Now he's back on 100 big screens across the country. 

Joining Nancy Grace today:

  • Paul Szych – Former Police Commander; Author: “Stop Him From Killing Them” on Amazon Kindle; Twitter: @WorkplaceThreat;  Screen Actors Guild-Eligible Actor
  • Domenic Romano – NY Corporate Lawyer and Entertainment Attorney, Romano Law
  • Dr. Shari Schwartz – Forensic Psychologist (Specializing in Capital Mitigation and Victim Advocacy); Author: “Criminal Behavior” and “Where Law and Psychology Intersect: Issues in Legal Psychology;” X: @TrialDoc”
  • Karen L. Smith – Forensic Expert, Lecturer at the University of Florida, Host of ‘Shattered Souls’ Podcast; Twitter: @KarensForensic
  • Dr. Michelle DuPre – Former Forensic Pathologist, Medical Examiner and Detective: Lexington County Sheriff’s Department, Author: “Homicide Investigation Field Guide” & “Investigating Child Abuse Field Guide;” Forensic Consultant
  • Alexis Tereszcuk - CrimeOnline.com Investigative Reporter 

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

0:06.4

The Alec Baldwin movie Rust is actually out.

0:14.6

Surprisingly, let me say shockingly, after the shooting death of a beautiful young mom, a cinematographer on the set, Helena Hutchins, they went forward with the movie.

0:29.2

Okay.

0:30.7

I'm Missy Grace.

0:31.8

This is Crime Stories.

0:33.0

Thank you for being with us.

0:35.6

I almost said the wait is over, but was anyone actually waiting for this

0:41.5

movie? It's been almost four years after a gun held by Alec Baldwin, loaded with live ammo,

0:50.5

was shot, killing an extremely talented cinematographer Helena Hutchins on the set.

0:58.8

And now that movie, after so many court actions, has made it to theaters.

1:07.2

I'm not a film critic.

1:10.1

The reviews have been mediocre, and the the word is it's very hard to watch

1:15.3

the movie because all you can think about is Lena Hutchins. You know, a lot of many, many films

1:21.8

have been shelved by studios for reasons much less serious than this.

1:29.8

But an average movie that resulted in the shooting death of a young mom will now be in

1:36.8

cinemas for everyone to view.

1:39.6

What happened on that set?

1:43.2

Tragedy on the film set of a new Alec Baldwin movie and what police are calling a misfire of a prop gun in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

1:52.0

The sheriff's office there has just confirmed it was Baldwin who fired the prop gun that killed a 42-year-old female director of photography, Helena Hutchins.

2:04.7

The film's director, Joel Sousa, was also hurt.

2:08.5

This incident happened on the set of the Western Rust.

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