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But, Bert, there has been a dramatic trend with that in the NFL playing quarterback.

So, like, I keep this chart, and it's actually been really helpful to me to kind of organize all of this, but it shows when every first round quarterback started his first game since 2000.

And if you go back, like in the early part of the century, you'll see there are a lot of guys who had to wait.

Chad Pennington didn't start until his 41st game.

Oh, yeah, the Jets.

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Rex Grossman until his 14th game.

Philip Rivers, 33rd game, even Eli Manning his 14th game. Philip Rivers, 33rd game.

Even Eli Manning, 10th game. Jason Campbell, 26th. Aaron Rogers, 46th game. Brady Quinn, 25th game. Jamarcus Russell, 16th game. So there were a lot of... They had to wait for that? No, but I mean... But the point is, like, just take the name down. I understand. There's a lot of examples.

Then in 08 was the inflection point.

Matt Ryan and Joe. But the point is, like, just take the name down. There's a lot of examples. Then in 08 was the inflection point.

Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco started from the beginning, both made the playoffs.

Ryan looked great.

Flacco got his team to an AFC title game, right?

Like they lost the Steelers in the AFC title game and the whole thing flipped. So starting in 08 and that's 16 draft cycles, right? Like they lost the Steelers in the AFC title game and the whole thing flipped.

So starting in 08 and that's 16 draft cycles, right?

48 quarterbacks have gone in the first round, right?

Only two did not start a game as a rookie.

Those two are Jordan Love and Jake Locker.

There are four others that I think you could consider red shirts, right?

Because they only got in because of injury or because there was a coach firing, whatever.

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