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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Alastair Campbell on fighting populism, his mistakes and the Brexit fallout

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Alastair Campbell has a plan to fix the crisis in our politics. Andrew Harrison talks to one of politics’ most controversial figures about where our democracies are going wrong, the poison of populism, the long shadow of Iraq, why Boris Johnson was so dangerous, and his new book But What Can I Do? Why Politics Has Gone So Wrong And How Can You Help Fix It.  “In my lifetime, most politicians have genuinely been trying to wrestle with problems. Populists try to exploit those problems.”  “You can’t be a leader without some moral compass. Johnson was chaotic, he didn’t manage people, he didn’t really care. He is not a serious person.”  “I was aggressive at times and I wanted the media to understand that if they stepped over a line, I was going to call them out.” “There are some people that will never accept what I say is true.”  www.patreon.com/bunkercast BOOK LINK: https://linktr.ee/alastaircampbellbook  Written and presented by Andrew Harrison. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production: Simon Williams. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Instagram | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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photography but I turn it into earning a living at 60. I enrolled on a day course.

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Well college. I loved going to college. It's good you can retry. I'm enrolled on the day course. But college?

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I loved going to college.

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respects our arch enemy because along with Rory Stewart Alistair Campbell is

1:19.3

permanently at the top of the podcast charts they show the rest is politics is up there like some

1:23.9

immovable political Brian Adams.

1:25.8

It's a new lease of life for the man who was Tony Blair's combative communications director

1:29.8

between 94 and 2003.

1:31.8

He subsequently became a leading light in the People's Vote campaign

1:34.5

to stop Brexit and then editor at large of the new European newspaper.

1:38.8

He has a new book coming out called,

1:40.4

But what can I do?

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