Let me just say something about Alan's White Bell. He is like a famous writer from

Sarah Knight Live and he was a huge part of the first cast and the first cast is always going

to be the first cast. There always be the greatest, right? And what happened and he really

breaks it down, another thing I like to say, stay in your lane, break it down. He breaks down that

when they got on the show, it was kind of innocent. No one knew they weren't rock stars. That's why

they call him not ready for primetime players. And then at a given point, I think it was John

Baluce. He did Animal House and became a movie star. And so the entire culture of the show

changes because of this, which is a fascinating thing and goes in detail about that. He could picture.

He come back to the set and they're in a little tiny. He's on SNL and now he's like so much bigger

than everyone. And now he's back to doing sketches and there had to be attitudes in this and you know,

some people are on drugs, some people aren't. But I think that once that hit, he said it changed

the dynamic. Yeah. And it's also Alan worked very close with Gilla Ratner and that's fun to hear

because she's somewhat American sweetheart. Maybe the most likeable. I don't know. She's just brilliant.

And he really talks fondly about her in great detail. He did a movie that he wrote, which was such a

hyped movie with a hyped cast called North. And it fucking bombed. And was John love it's in it?

It's so brutal because you get the interesting thing about showbiz out here is that no one knows

Jack shit. You can't. There's almost no for sure hits. And so smartest people, directors, writers,

cast and you just can't say this movie will be great and people to say pass. And it's unbelievable.

I can't believe that I'm cracked the code yet. I actually started the movie right after 1995.

Nobody knows Jack shit. And that even bombed that movie didn't do it. Nobody knows Jack shit and hit

it even bombed. No, you play Jack shit show business. Yeah, I was Jack shit. I look kind of like Joe dirt.

I was kind of like Jack shit. And Jack shit. And Jack shit. Are you clueless? Yeah. I don't know

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