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On Being with Krista Tippett

Alan Dienstag — Alzheimer's and the Spiritual Terrain of Memory

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2015

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Alzheimer’s disease has been described as “the great unlearning.” But what does it reveal about the nature of human identity? What remains when memory unravels? Alan Dienstag is a psychologist who has led support groups with early Alzheimer’s patients, as well as a writing group he co-designed with the novelist Don DeLillo. He’s experienced the early stages of Alzheimer’s as a time for giving memories away rather than losing them.

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0:00.0

Alzheimer's disease has been described as the great unlearning.

0:04.6

But what does it reveal about the nature of human identity?

0:08.2

What remains when memory unravels and how might such insights help Alzheimer's sufferers themselves?

0:15.8

We'll explore these questions with the psychologist, Alandine Steg.

0:19.6

He's led support groups with early Alzheimer's patients,

0:22.8

as well as a writing group he co-designed with the novelist, Don Delilo.

0:27.2

Alandine Steg has observed the early stages of Alzheimer's

0:30.8

as a time for giving memories away rather than losing them.

0:35.8

In the end, I think it's that they were making a statement about who they are

0:41.8

and the moment that they were in was such that it has this kind of resonance

0:48.4

that feels familiar to all of us on some deep level,

0:55.4

which is that we don't have an unlimited amount of time.

0:59.0

And we're going to run out of it.

1:00.4

And when you watch these people, you see people who are running out of time.

1:04.4

So there's almost something heroic, you know, like,

1:07.4

I'm going to tell you who I am before it's too late.

1:10.4

I'm going to tell you this story about picking lilacs from a tree with my mother.

1:16.4

You know, I'm going to, whatever it is, you know, a simple story like that.

1:19.4

Somehow has this kind of, it's elevated.

1:23.4

I'm Christa Tippett and this is on being.

1:30.4

Alandine Steg is a clinical psychologist in private practice in New York.

1:34.4

I interviewed him in 2009.

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