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Hi, everyone.

For today's episode, I spoke with my dear friend Alan Cumming. We met 25 years ago at a party where we were sitting in a booth and the people in the booth next to us, someone leaned over and started to touch my hair. And I said to Alan sort of quite frightened that

someone was petting me. And we had a moment and kind of both knew that we were going to be

good friends ever since then. So you probably know him as an actor, presenter, author, and host of the hit show Traders.

I've known Alan for so long and so intimately.

I wasn't surprised in our conversation when he talked about how abusive his dad had been.

But I was really surprised to learn that he had also been groomed by an older man

when he was a teenager.

So it was a little heartbreaking for me.

But I hope you find something to connect to in our chat.

And thanks for joining us on reclaiming.

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I was thinking this morning. I was awake at 5 a.m.

Oh. Lying there, nervous. And... So this is your first one. You're popping your cherry with me?

Yeah, exactly. Popping my podcast post Cherry. Love. Exactly.

And I was thinking, I was nervous and I was thinking about two things.

One was, I did the math.

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