Welcome to the conversations that matter

podcast my name is John Harris. We got a guest with us today. We got

Alan action. Alan thank you for joining me and being willing to discuss the Southern Baptist Convention

and whatever else we get into. Well I appreciate you having me and there is

certainly a lot to talk about. Yeah well you haven't been on the show before. We talked a few times more recently, but I've been familiar with your blog since I think, honestly I think it was like right after Resolution 9 or right before Resolution 9. We don't even call it the

SBC Convention anymore. We just call it resolution nine from 2019. But before

that I think you were blogging about like sports and other things and somehow now you're like the go-to guy for like what's the latest in the SBC.

So and I think your numbers are like they exceed the other more progressive like

SPC voices and some of these other blogs that no one reads but so here's the

thing I wanted to find out first of all how did you get into this because I don't even

know this story well I guess it was about 2015, certainly by 2016, I started detecting there's something wrong with what Russell

Moore is saying.

So I started writing about this.

I wasn't, the more I researched, the more I thought, no, there's significant issues with Russell

Moore and you can start seeing some of the connections where you started seeing well he's advocating policies that are not necessarily

conservative and so I started writing about that and I got a lot of reaction and the more pushback you would get from some of the more leftist woke folks that as we would know them now. I just got more committed to doing it.

They just want to silence any dissent. And so instead of engaging the dialogue, which

could have taken place back 2015, 2016, 2017, they just wanted everybody to be quiet.

Well, that doesn't work with me.

I tend to, it tends to make me want to talk more.

So I just kept doing it and certainly I think that by the 2019 convention that was that turning point with resolution nine because finally it validated everything that a lot of us have been saying that critical race theory and

social justice had taken over the Southern Baptist Convention.

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