Welcome to Off Message. I'm Isaac Dover. Today's guests, Reverend Al Sharpton and Congressman Jerry Nadler from New York.

You know, if thinking Nazis are bad makes me a biased reporter, then I guess I'm a biased reporter.

If saying white supremacists are wrong and dangerous and disgusting makes you think I can't be fair,

then I guess you've got me.

What you've heard a lot of people say is what's going on and what's been going on since Charlottesville shouldn't surprise us.

Look at some of what came out during the campaign last year.

A couple of weeks ago when I was talking to Deval Patrick for that episode,

one of the things that came up was a question I put to him about the aftermath of the election,

that we hadn't seen the explosion of violence and racism that many expected.

He told me then, and this was in mid-July,

I'm not sure it's been reported on because I don't

think you see it in broad sort of camera-ready examples, but talk to people, listen to what

people who already felt vulnerable say they experience now.

It's interesting from a mini-time capsule kind of way to go back and listen to that

conversation.

It's just a few weeks ago.

This goes further back than that, though. Ever been called a dirty fill in the blank?

I have. Ever had coins thrown at your feet on the street to see if you'd pick them up? I have.

And that was growing up in New York and Manhattan for me. It's much worse in many other places,

and many people have had to deal with a lot more than I did. But the point is, it's everywhere.

It's all over us. So part of why I went to New York to talk to Sharpton and Nadler was to get them

to talk about their own experiences with racism and anti-Semitism. You'll hear some searing

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