They'd come into the A-room from the B-room with literally a bag of cash. I'd have a 38 on the desk. They'd have like a couple guys with 45's. We'd count the money, I'd do a house mix, and they'd go on their way. That's amazing. It was like that. That's amazing. And he would do Friday experiments on us. Hopefully, shoot up this like news side to Delic

that some university had come up with.

Okay, sounds good.

Ah!

Ah!

I don't think I've ever written a song.

I get my songs from the universe,

like I don't know where they come from.

Here we are. Here we are. We're alive. Finally. We're alive. We're still alive. Who knew? I mean, seriously, think back to Chicago days. Like, who would have predicted you and me would be sitting here right now? Still making music? Yeah. Still being great? Yeah. I think you're still being great. And happy? Are you happy? big time. You seem really peaceful. I love it out here. I really do. I mean, I love going back to Chicago. Are you a closet hippie? You're living out in the, I'm pretty much a hippie. Yeah. Yeah. Just old hippie. Just do my stuff. Don't cause problems. Pay my taxes. You know, you're going to make headlines through the,

yeah,

yeah,

do the occasional.

He doesn't want to cause problems through the occasional anti-Trump album and then, you know, just keep my head low. It's, it's all good. So recently you've been touring with Gary Newman, front line assembly. Yeah. Seems like those shows are going really well. That was so, so much fun. I mean, I never knew that Gary and I would get along.

He's just the loveliest guy.

So, well, it's total sweetheart.

Well, on top of that, but then we found a love for psilocybin together. So the tour went swimmingly. It's like, well, here's the question. Do the synth, the synth sound better on Silicide? Yes, absolutely. You hear the phasing. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. I love that. Hoping for the masses is the recent album. I was listening to it. Very, very strong. I'm a huge fan. I think I've told you that in the past, but I just think, you know, somehow you've reinvented yourself 800 times, but you've always been you, which is interesting. I think you're one of the only people that's been able to do that. I'm kind of like a Walmart Bowie. You know, I think you better than that, but I'll let you find yourself. I'll say, you know, you reinvent yourself, but obviously don't have the bonafitas of both. Sure. But like, you just keep doing what floats your boat. Yeah. You know, because otherwise it's boring and otherwise you should get some kind of consultant job or something. You know, what gives you fire at this point? Because we both been through these weird changes in the music business and now we're streaming land. Well, the fire for me right now is the finish line. Okay. Because I'm doing it on my own terms, which is nice that you can get out of like a 40 year occupation and get out on your own terms, which is nice, that you can get out of like a 40-year occupation and get out on your own terms. And to have Paul Barker back in the fold, and to do a final record and tie a final bow on the whole thing, and then do a final tour, and really a final tour, not like... Not the wrestling group. Yeah, Slayer, Motley, Crew, everyone,

comes back the year later.

No, when you say it's the final, I believe.

I'm done.

Yeah.

And it's important that it's done

because there's really not many more statements to make.

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