Hey guys, it's Lauren Egan here at the bulwark. Earlier this month, Evanston Mayor Daniel Biss won a crowded

Democratic primary in Illinois's ninth congressional district. And he did this despite the fact that

APEC spent millions of dollars in this race, some of that targeted at him. And since his win,

progressives have said that BIS could be the anti-Apaq template for the party going forward.

So Mayor Biss is here with us today.

He's going to walk us through this template and how he won this primary.

Thank you so much for joining us.

I really appreciate it.

Thanks, Laura.

I'm really looking forward to it.

So for those that didn't follow this primary race closely,

can you give us a quick recap,

walk us through Apex involvement over this race?

Yeah, so I'll try to condense this.

It was a wild experience, a 15 candidate primary.

And basically since a late summer, early fall, it became clear that APEC had a candidate in this race.

I was clear that I was not prepared to sign on to no strings attached blank check of military aid to Israel.

That's their litmus test.

And so they went all in for another candidate.

That started with raising money, sending fundraising emails, eventually traveling around the country

with that candidate to raise funds directly into her campaign fund.

But then as we got closer to the election, they set up a shell super pack, a brand new

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