Mike.

Lauren.

I was thinking that we should talk about our own extinction today.

You mean like as journalists or podcasters or as like human beings?

Maybe both.

Great.

Yeah. Yeah, it's another podcast about AI.

But I think that people are really going to want to listen to this one.

So can I ask, when are we going to

give people something to listen to that's actually hopeful? Well, actually, I think that's part of

this show, too. Okay, great. So let's get to it. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Gadget Lab. I am Lauren Good. I'm a senior writer at Wired. And I am Michael

Kalori. I'm a senior editor at Wired. And today our fellow writer Will Knight joins us from Cambridge,

Massachusetts. Will, it's great to have you back on the gadget lab. Hello. It's great to be back.

One of these days, Will, we're going to reach out to you and just say, would you like to talk about like cat gadgets or something? But for now, you are squarely in the realm of AI coverage. So that's what we're having you want to talk about. So yes, we are talking about AI yet again. But this time, it's a statement from a group of technologists who are warning of an existential threat

to humanity. It was the one sentence statement that was heard around the tech world earlier this

week, quote, mitigating the risk of extinction from AI should be a global priority alongside

other societal scale risks such as pandemics and nuclear war, end quote.

That came from the Center for AI Safety, which is a nonprofit, and it was signed by leading

figures in the development of AI. Now, this is obviously not the first time that we've been

warned of the perils of AI. Some of our listeners might recall the pause that hundreds of top

technologists and researchers were calling for back in March. And so far has not really resulted

in a pause. But all of these doomsday warnings had us wondering, what should we believe

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