Joining me today is the author of the New York Times best-seller Rise of the Robots

Technology and the Threat of a Jobless Future.

Martin Ford, welcome to the Ruben Report.

Thanks for having me.

I'm glad to have you here, sir, because dystopian futures, robots, SkyNet, all of it, very

much in my wheelhouse, and I want you to explain it all to me.

Are you ready?

Yes, definitely.

Alright, let's do it.

First off, before we dive directly into robots and AI and all that, just tell me a little

bit about your background, what brought you to writing a book like this.

Okay, so I studied computer engineering in college, and then I worked as an engineer, a design

engineer for several years.

Then I went back and studied business.

Eventually, I ended up starting and running a small software company up in Silicon Valley.

And I ran that for many years, but even in the course of running that, I saw the impact

that all this technology was having on jobs at my business and businesses like it.

And that really got me thinking about this issue.

And so about 10 years ago in 2009, I wrote my first book called Delights in the Tunnel,

which really argued that artificial intelligence was going to be the next big thing in computing,

and then it was going to have a dramatic impact in particular on the job market.

And that book did well enough that it led to an opportunity to write this book in 2015,

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