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Big Technology Podcast

AI Scaling, Alignment, and the Path to Superintelligence — With Dwarkesh Patel

Big Technology Podcast

Alex Kantrowitz

Management, Religion, Politics, Entrepreneurship, Business News, News, Investing, Marketing, News Commentary, Social Sciences, Science, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Business, Tech News, Philosophy, Government, Technology

4.7596 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2024

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Dwarkesh Patel is the host of the Dwarkesh Podcast, where he's interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Ilya Sustkever, Dario Amodei, and more AI leaders. Patel joins Big Technology to discuss the current state and future trajectory of AI development, including the potential for artificial general intelligence (AGI) and superintelligence. Tune in to hear Patel's insights on key issues like AI scaling, alignment, safety, and governance, as well as his perspective on the competitive landscape of the AI industry. We also cover the influence of the effective altruism movement on Patel's thinking, his podcast strategy, and the challenges and opportunities ahead as AI systems become more advanced. Listen for a wide-ranging and insightful conversation that grapples with some of the most important questions of our technological age. ---- Enjoying Big Technology Podcast? Please rate us five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ in your podcast app of choice. For weekly updates on the show, sign up for the pod newsletter on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6901970121829801984/ Want a discount for Big Technology on Substack? Here’s 40% off for the first year: https://tinyurl.com/bigtechnology Questions? Feedback? Write to: bigtechnologypodcast@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

One of the sharpest minds in AI joins us to look at the research, the business, the dangers and the conspiracies, all coming up right after this.

0:08.0

Hey, I'm Michael Kovnet, host of The Next Big Idea Daily. The show is a masterclass in better living from some of the smartest writers around.

0:17.0

Every morning, Monday through Friday, we'll serve up a quick 10-minute lesson on how to

0:21.7

strengthen your relationships, supercharge your creativity, boost your productivity, and more.

0:27.3

Follow the next big idea daily wherever you get your podcasts.

0:32.5

Welcome to Big Technology Podcast, a show for cool-headed, nuanced conversation of the tech

0:37.3

world and beyond.

0:38.8

We're joined today by Dwarkesh Patel. He's the host of the Dwar Keshe podcast, and he's had

0:44.3

DeepMind CEO Demis Saba on recently, along with Anthropic CEO, Dario Modi, the OpenAI chief

0:51.9

scientist, Ilias, Et Sgever, and recently met a CEO Mark Zuckerberg.

0:56.8

So that's the person we're dealing with here today.

0:59.1

To Arkesh, welcome to the show.

1:00.6

Thanks for having me.

1:01.7

Super excited to be on, Alex.

1:03.3

I think that you've been doing some great interviews on AI, looking at the research,

1:07.7

where things are going, and really asking the right questions to the right people. So you've interviewed Ilius at Skever, OpenAIs, chief scientists, or research, where things are going, and really asking the right questions to the right people.

1:11.7

So you've interviewed Ilyas at Sgever, OpenAI's chief scientists, or really, I should say,

1:16.3

it's former chief scientist after he parted ways with the company yesterday.

1:21.1

How important was Elia to Open AI's ability to stay competitive in the AI field?

1:26.5

I actually think that's a really interesting question.

1:28.3

I remember I was chatting with someone and they said something along the lines of, well,

1:35.1

now that they've lost Dalia, you know, I think the great people matter a lot.

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