AI Scaling, Alignment, and the Path to Superintelligence — With Dwarkesh Patel
Big Technology Podcast
Alex Kantrowitz
4.7 • 596 Ratings
🗓️ 15 May 2024
⏱️ 65 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | One of the sharpest minds in AI joins us to look at the research, the business, the dangers and the conspiracies, all coming up right after this. |
| 0:08.0 | Hey, I'm Michael Kovnet, host of The Next Big Idea Daily. The show is a masterclass in better living from some of the smartest writers around. |
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| 0:32.5 | Welcome to Big Technology Podcast, a show for cool-headed, nuanced conversation of the tech |
| 0:37.3 | world and beyond. |
| 0:38.8 | We're joined today by Dwarkesh Patel. He's the host of the Dwar Keshe podcast, and he's had |
| 0:44.3 | DeepMind CEO Demis Saba on recently, along with Anthropic CEO, Dario Modi, the OpenAI chief |
| 0:51.9 | scientist, Ilias, Et Sgever, and recently met a CEO Mark Zuckerberg. |
| 0:56.8 | So that's the person we're dealing with here today. |
| 0:59.1 | To Arkesh, welcome to the show. |
| 1:00.6 | Thanks for having me. |
| 1:01.7 | Super excited to be on, Alex. |
| 1:03.3 | I think that you've been doing some great interviews on AI, looking at the research, |
| 1:07.7 | where things are going, and really asking the right questions to the right people. So you've interviewed Ilius at Skever, OpenAIs, chief scientists, or research, where things are going, and really asking the right questions to the right people. |
| 1:11.7 | So you've interviewed Ilyas at Sgever, OpenAI's chief scientists, or really, I should say, |
| 1:16.3 | it's former chief scientist after he parted ways with the company yesterday. |
| 1:21.1 | How important was Elia to Open AI's ability to stay competitive in the AI field? |
| 1:26.5 | I actually think that's a really interesting question. |
| 1:28.3 | I remember I was chatting with someone and they said something along the lines of, well, |
| 1:35.1 | now that they've lost Dalia, you know, I think the great people matter a lot. |
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