AI's Rising Risks: Hacking, Virology, Loss of Control — With Dan Hendrycks

Big Technology Podcast

Alex Kantrowitz

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4.6 • 395 Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Dan Hendrycks is the Director and co-founder of the Center for AI Safety, and an advisor to Scale AI and xAI. He joins Big Technology Podcast for a discussion of AI's growing risk profile, and what to do about it. Tune in to hear Hendricks explain why virology expertise in AI models is an immediate concern and how these systems might soon enable devastating hacks. We also cover intelligence explosion scenarios, the geopolitical implications of AI development, and why an international AI arms race could lead to faster development than the world can handle. Hit play for an insider's perspective on how governments and AI labs are wrestling with unprecedented technological power that could reshape global security. Connect with Dan: https://www.nationalsecurity.ai/ https://x.com/DanHendrycks

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0:00.0	Now that artificial intelligence has tried to break out of a training environment, cheat at chess, and deceive safety evaluators, is it finally time to start worrying about the risk that AI poses to us all?
0:12.6	We'll talk about it with Dan Hendricks, the director of the Center for AI Safety right after this.
0:18.6	From LinkedIn News, I'm Leah Smart, host of Everyday Better, an award-winning podcast dedicated to
0:23.6	personal development.
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0:28.9	work and personal life.
0:30.4	Listen to Every Day Better on the LinkedIn Podcast Network, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get
0:34.3	your podcasts.
0:35.8	From LinkedIn News, I'm Jesse Hempel, host of the Hello Monday podcast.
0:40.8	Start your week with the Hello Monday podcast.
0:43.8	We'll navigate career pivots.
0:45.8	We'll learn where happiness fits in.
0:47.6	Listen to Hello Monday with me, Jesse Hempel on the LinkedIn Podcast Network or wherever you get your podcasts.
0:55.5	Welcome to Big Technology Podcast, a show for cool-headed, nuanced conversation of the tech world and beyond.
1:02.1	Today we are joined by Dan Hendricks. He is the director of the Center for AI Safety, an advisor to Elon Musk's XAI,
1:09.5	and also an advisor to scale AI, here to speak with
1:12.7	us about all the risks that AI might pose to us today and into the future.
1:16.9	Dan, it's so great to see you.
1:18.7	Welcome to the show.
1:19.7	Glad to be here.
1:20.7	It's an opportune moment to have you on the show because I'm recently doomed curious,
1:25.7	and I'll explain what that means.
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