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AI's impact on business [CISOP]

CyberWire Daily

N2K Networks, Inc.

Daily News, Tech News, News, Technology

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Kim Jones sits down with Eric Nagel, a former CISO with a rare blend of engineering, legal, and patent expertise, to unpack what responsible AI really looks like inside a modern enterprise. Eric breaks down the difference between traditional machine learning and generative AI, why nondeterministic outputs can be both powerful and risky, and how issues like bias, hallucinations, and data leakage demand new safeguards—including AI firewalls. He also discusses what smaller organizations can do to manage AI risk, how tools like code-generation models change expectations for developers, and the evolving regulatory landscape shaping how companies must deploy AI responsibly. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to the Cyberwire Network, powered by N2K.

0:09.5

This exclusive N2K Pro subscriber-only episode of CISO Perspectives has been unlocked for all Cyberwire listeners through the generous support of Meter,

0:23.1

building full-stack zero-trust networks from the ground up.

0:25.1

Trusted by security and network leaders everywhere,

0:28.0

meter delivers fast, secure by design,

0:30.5

and scalable connectivity

0:31.9

without the frustration, friction,

0:34.6

complexity, and cost

0:36.1

of managing an endless proliferation of vendors and tools.

0:40.3

Meter gives your enterprise a complete networking stack, secure wired, wireless, and cellular

0:46.3

in one integrated solution built for performance, resilience, and scale.

0:51.6

Go to meter.com slash CISOP today to learn more and book your demo.

0:57.5

That's M-E-T-E-R.com slash C-I-S-O-P.

1:07.1

Welcome back to C-O Perspectives.

1:14.5

I'm Kim Jones, and I'm thrilled that you're here for this season's journey.

1:19.1

Throughout this season, we will be exploring some of the most pressing problems facing our industry today

1:23.9

and discussing with experts how we can better address them.

1:28.3

Today, we're looking at AI's impact on business.

1:32.3

As AI has only continued to advance and proliferate across every sector,

1:37.3

managing its impact is more important than ever.

1:40.3

Let's get into it.

2:02.4

For those filling out their buzzword bingo cards, it's time to talk about artificial intelligence.

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