AI Isn't Stealing Creativity, It's Supercharging It | Rick Rubin (PT. 2)
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🗓️ 28 June 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Is AI the end of creativity, or the beginning of a new artistic era? Rick Rubin returns for PT. 2 of his conversation with Ryan about how AI is reshaping creativity and why the real art still lies in the choices we make. They discuss the beauty of unexpected results, the difference between AI generating and iterating, timeless wisdom of the Tao Te Ching, and much more.
Rick Rubin is a renowned American record producer and the co-founder of Def Jam Recordings, founder of American Recordings, and former co-president of Columbia Records. He has produced albums for a wide range of acclaimed artists, including the Beastie Boys, Run-DMC, Public Enemy, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Metallica, Audioslave, Rage Against the Machine, and Johnny Cash.
He has won nine Grammys and has been nominated for 12 more. He has been called “the most important producer of the last 20 years” by MTV and was named on Time‘s list of the “100 Most Influential People in the World”.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the weekend edition of the Daily Stoic. |
| 0:06.7 | Each weekday, we bring you a meditation inspired by the ancient Stoics, |
| 0:11.4 | something to help you live up to those four stoic virtues of courage, justice, temperance, and wisdom. |
| 0:18.2 | And then here on the weekend, we take a deeper dive into those same topics. |
| 0:23.2 | We interview stoic philosophers. We explore at length how these stoic ideas can be applied |
| 0:30.9 | to our actual lives and the challenging issues of our time. Here on the weekend, when you have a little bit more space, |
| 0:38.7 | when things have slowed down, be sure to take some time to think, to go for a walk, |
| 0:45.0 | to sit with your journal, and most importantly, to prepare for what the week ahead may bring. |
| 0:54.3 | Hey, it's Ryan. |
| 0:55.4 | Welcome to another episode of The Daily Stoic Podcast. |
| 0:58.8 | I'm going to give you one of my favorite quotes from the Dowdeging, sort of an ideal |
| 1:03.9 | I aspire to. |
| 1:06.7 | It goes like this. |
| 1:07.5 | Poised like one who must forward a stream in in winter. Cautious like one who fears |
| 1:12.8 | his neighbors on every side. Reserved like a visitor. Opening up like ice about to break. Honest like |
| 1:21.2 | unhewn wood. Broad like a valley. Turid, like muddy water. |
| 1:31.9 | There's something about the contradictions there, |
| 1:38.4 | the spectrum being both reserved and opened, poised yet cautious, |
| 1:47.3 | honest like unhewn wood, broad, but also sort of roiled. I don't know. There's something to me that struck me when I read that for the first time as sort of an embodiment of both what we're |
| 1:52.7 | aspiring to as Stoics and what the Stoics are in practice. I actually use this quote at the end |
| 1:59.2 | of the part one story in Stillness is the key. |
| 2:03.7 | I'm talking about Kennedy during the Cuban muscle crisis. |
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