AI is the future! AI is a fraud. Let's debate.

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🗓️ 20 April 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

AI has captured the imagination of Silicon Valley seemingly overnight. And in all this excitement, it's hard to tell what's really going on. What is this technology, how does Silicon Valley plan to change our world with it, and what exactly has a bunch of smart people very worried? I'm doing a special series to figure that all out. Over the next three weeks, I'll talk to true AI believers and its sharpest detractors to get the real story about where this technology stands, and what it might mean for us. First up: I meet Joshua Browder (@jbrowder1), a Stanford computer science dropout who tried to get an AI lawyer into court. Then: Microsoft's CTO Kevin Scott (@kevin_scott) pitches me on a bright AI future. (5:10) Plus: I talk to hype-deflator, cognitive scientist and author Gary Marcus (@GaryMarcus). He believes in AI, but he thinks the giants of Silicon Valley are scaling flawed technology now—with potentially dangerous consequences. (25:30) Subscribe for free to Recode Media to make sure you get the whole series. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:00.7	Joshua Browder is bad at driving this isn't a judgment it is a fact and it's verified by the police.
1:12.0	I like to make the excuse that they give out tickets a lot, but in reality, I was a terrible
1:16.4	driver and probably got about 30 tickets. But Bratter is good at getting out of tickets.
1:21.5	The trick he figured out was writing letters to appeal the tickets. He did this a lot, and it
1:26.8	worked. And a rumor spread that I was the guy who could get my friends out of tickets and
1:32.3	people would just send me photos of their tickets. And after about the 10th ticket, I thought,
1:37.3	there must be an automated way. And so I created it just for fun.
1:41.3	Browder researched the top 12 reasons that tickets were dismissed.
1:44.9	Things like the signage or there being a mistake on the ticket.
1:48.3	And then he wrote a piece of software that matched your ticket with one of those excuses.
1:52.3	Then takes down all the details, inserts those details into a letter, and then faxes or
1:57.2	mails it to the right place.
1:59.3	Browder turned this talent into a company,
2:00.9	Do Not Pay, so you can pay him to automate you out of tickets or bank fees, free trials,
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