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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View

AI in 2025 – Infrastructure, investment & bottlenecks with Dylan Patel

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View

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51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2024

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Dylan Patel, founder of SemiAnalysis and one of my go-to experts on semiconductors and data center infrastructure joins me to discuss AI in 2025. Several key themes emerged about where AI might be headed in 2025: (1) The hyperscalers are racing ahead in capital expenditure, (2) The expected explosion in AI workloads is drawing in a wave of new specialized GPU cloud providers, (3) By 2027, AI data centers alone could account for 10% or more of total US electricity consumption, straining America’s aging infrastructure, (4) Open-source variants like Llama 3.1 are driving commoditization at speed, slicing away the profit margins of plain-vanilla model-serving.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, happy holidays. While I'm away this holiday season, I wanted to drop here a few of my conversations with leading experts in AI.

0:07.0

I discussed how AI might surprise us in 2025 with Ethan Mollick, Dylan Patel, Nathan Benach and Kai Fu Lee.

0:15.0

The conversations were initially released for members of Exponential View.

0:19.0

First one up, my discussion with Dylan Patel. Enjoy.

0:23.3

So it's Azeem here from Exponential View,

0:25.9

and this is part of our series of conversations

0:27.7

about what surprises artificial intelligence

0:30.5

will have in store for us in 2025.

0:33.4

It's a particularly hard question, of course,

0:34.9

because they're surprises.

0:36.6

If we knew what they were, they wouldn't be surprises. But to help us work question, of course, because they're surprises. If we knew what they were,

0:37.9

they wouldn't be surprises. But to help us work through one of those questions, I've got Dylan Patel,

0:44.3

who is the founder, the boss, the Supremo of really my favorite semiconductor data center

0:52.0

infrastructure vehicle for analyzing these questions.

0:57.1

Dylan, thank you for joining us.

0:59.2

Yeah, thank you for having me, Azeem.

1:00.6

And I'm here with Zeme, the leader of exponents, right?

1:06.1

Well, we try.

1:07.1

We try.

1:07.8

So I'm in a hotel in New York, which explains the slightly bizarre, weird,

1:12.7

vanilla background. I was here for the deal book summit, Andrew Ross Salkin and New York Times

1:20.1

deal books. So I was able to hear Jeff Bezos, Sunder Pichai, and Sam Altman speak yesterday. Well, also Prince Harry and

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