Hi, everyone from New York Magazine in the Vox Media Podcast Network.

This is On with Kara Swisher and I'm Kara Swisher.

If you care about innovation, artificial intelligence was probably top of mind

for you in 2024, and it will be in 2025, a year in which AI significance will probably continue to

skyrocket. But as we get into the new year, it's important to be clear-eyed about AI's potential

pitfalls. The hype might be real, but so are the dangers. So I gathered three top AI safety and

ethics experts for a live conversation at the Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg Center to discuss

some of the thornyest issues surrounding what could become the most impactful technology of

our lifetimes, at least for this era. Mark Dredsey is a professor of computer science at Johns Hopkins.

He's done extensive research on bias in large language models,

and he's thinking about applications of AI in practically every field,

from public health to mental health to financial services.

Dr. Ruman Chowdry is the CEO and co-founder of Humane Intelligence and the first

person to be appointed U.S. science envoy for artificial intelligence. She's advised government

agency on AI ethics and safety regulation, and back when it was known as Twitter, she was

the director of machine learning ethics, transparency, and accountability. You can probably guess what

happened to her job when Elon Musk bought the company. And Gillian Hatfield is an economist and

legal scholar turned AI researcher at Johns Hopkins. She's a professor of computer science and government

and policy, and she's one of the few social scientists doing deep research into AI and thinking critically

about how this technology could eventually impact us in almost every aspect of our lives.

This was a fascinating conversation with three extremely intelligent and thoughtful researchers,

so stick around. support for the show comes from nerds.

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