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Decoder with Nilay Patel

AI deepfakes are cheap, easy, and coming for the 2024 election

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 February 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Our new Thursday episodes of Decoder are all about deep dives into big topics in the news, and this week we’re continuing our mini-series on one of the biggest topics of all: generative AI. Last week, we took a look at the wave of copyright lawsuits that might eventually grind this whole industry to a halt. Those are basically a coin flip — and the outcomes are off in the distance, as those cases wind their way through the legal system. A bigger problem right now is that AI systems are really good at making just believable enough fake images and audio — and with tools like OpenAI’s new Sora, maybe video soon, too. And of course, it’s once again a presidential election year here in the US. So today, Verge policy editor Adi Robertson joins the show to discuss how AI might supercharge disinformation and lies in an election that’s already as contentious as any in our lifetimes — and what might be done about it. Links: How the Mueller report indicts social networks Twitter permanently bans Trump Meta allows Trump back on Facebook and Instagram No Fakes Act wants to protect actors and singers from unauthorized AI replicas White House calls for legislation to stop Taylor Swift AI fakes Watermarks aren’t the silver bullet for AI misinformation AI Drake just set an impossible legal trap for Google Barack Obama on AI, free speech, and the future of the internet Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Kate Cox and Nick Statt and was edited by Callie Wright. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Support for Decoder comes from SAP Business AI.

0:04.0

Sure, we've all had fun messing around with AI image generators and conversation bots,

0:08.0

but AI is more than a novelty.

0:11.0

Businesses around the world have found ways to harness its potential, like spotting inventory shortages before they happen, or supporting supply chain management.

0:18.5

And it's very possible that your business could benefit from AI integration too.

0:23.0

Unlocked the potential of AI and discover even more possibilities with SAP business

0:27.5

AI.

0:28.5

Revolutionary technology, real world results.

0:31.5

That's SAP business AI. Learn more at SAP.com slash AI.

0:39.8

Hello and welcome to Decoder, I'm Eli Patel,

0:43.0

Editor-in-Chief of The Virgin Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems.

0:47.0

Our new Thursday episodes are all about big topics in the news,

0:50.0

and this week we're continuing our short series on one of the biggest topics of all, generative AI.

0:56.0

Last week we took a look at the wave of copyright lawsuits that might eventually grind the entire generative

1:02.0

AI industry to a halt.

1:04.1

But those lawsuits are basically a coin flip, and the outcome is off in the distance, as those cases

1:09.4

wind their way through the legal system.

1:11.6

A bigger problem for the industry right now is that AI systems are really good at making just believable enough fake images and audio.

1:21.0

And on top of that, it's an election year here in the United States.

1:25.0

The conversation around media manipulation on social platforms comes and goes with every election cycle lately.

1:31.0

The 2016 election was marked by Russian

1:34.2

disinformation campaigns on Facebook. The 2020 campaign offered a

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