This is Sirens, a new series brought to you by the ladies of bombshell, where we dissect the institutions of American power.

Join us as we sound the alarm on technology, governance, and national security

issues, and maybe lure some men to their deaths. I'm Lauren DeYoung Shulman. I'm Aaron Simpson.

And I'm Rod at I in Gartham. And this week, as our special guests, we're going to have one of the

co-hosts of Optimist Economy, which has some really absolutely fabulous regular beats that they do on

their show, one of which is terms and conditions, which is about the word that they've had to look

up recently. And the other is, I can't really call it, but it's like the executive orders that

they would institute if they have the chance. Sometimes they pick their own. Sometimes they have friends of the show who are writing in and supporting them, which you welcomes you to

suggest ones overall. So I, in borrowing from that before we get to chatting with Catherine

later, what executive order would you institute if you had the chance?

Rada?

I sort of love this question, and I will confess I went in two directions, which is one was

the extremely pedantic and one was the extremely sublime.

So I will start with the pedantic, which is I'd like to ban the word innovation in any

title.

Oh my God, it's incredible.

I love it. You just cannot use the word innovation in the title. It must be struck out of all organizational

names across the federal government. And I really feel like this would force heavy use of the

thesaurus. And that would be a fun, fun fact for everyone involved. The more serious one, and we will get to

talk to Catherine a little bit about this, is on changing how we actually measure the performance

of the labor market without using unemployment rates, because of course, unemployment books have

this denominator problem of people in the labor market, which

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