AI Chats with Vinod Khosla and Tyler Cowen

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9 • 654 Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2023

⏱️ 68 minutes

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The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on two guests to talk about artificial intelligence. The first is Vinod Khosla, the legendary tech investor and founder of Khosla Ventures, to talk about how the rise of AI compares to previous breakthroughs (4:00), how it is like the Manhattan Project (8:00), why universal basic income may be necessary (16:20), and the culture war aspect of AI (20:25). Then, Tyler Cowen, the George Mason University economist, blogger and author, comes on to talk about this moment in history (26:00), AI doomerism (28:40), the open v closed debate (31:50), why he’s not too worried about misinformation (35:25), why AI will save crypto (40:30), the return of ‘moving history’ (42:50), how he has changed how he teaches (45:20), the end of the smartphone (47:20), the future of work (51:50), AI as a doomsday weapon (55:30), why he published the world's first “generative’ book (1:00:15), and the end of the browser (1:05:20).

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0:00.0	Yo, technology. What is it all about?
0:04.6	We will have to reconceptualize who we are, what is our intelligence, what are we truly good at, what does beauty mean to us?
0:12.4	Will we let an AI help raise our kids? How does it intersect with religion?
0:17.3	All this will change, and we are not psychologically equipped for this.
0:21.6	So this, I think, is the greatest danger.
0:24.0	We'll manage, but it's going to be interesting, shall we say. Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley, your weekly dispatch from behind the scenes and inside the minds of the top people in tech this week.
0:49.8	Man, it's a double feature. Get excited, everybody. So, in case you don't know, this coming week,
0:58.6	Britain is hosting a very Ballyhooed, very controversial AI Safety Summit. It will be emceived by
1:05.8	the prime minister. The government has invited experts and politicians from around the world, including
1:11.2	Vice President Kamala Harris.
1:14.1	And as part of this groundswell, this urgent desire by governments around the world to address
1:19.4	the rise of AI, which everyone seems to agree is a technology that's going to change
1:24.8	kind of everything from what it means to work, what has value, what
1:29.0	information can be trusted. And of course, if our days as the dominant species on the planet
1:33.9	are numbered because we're all going to be enslaved or otherwise killed, Terminator style.
1:39.3	And in fact, on Monday, Joe Biden is going to be putting out an executive order specifically
1:43.1	around AI regulation.
1:44.3	There's a lot flying around.
1:46.9	And so I thought, we need to talk about this.
1:49.7	And I have two extremely smart, very well-qualified people on to talk about it this week.
1:56.1	First up is Vinod Kossela.
1:59.5	He's one of the living legends of Silicon Valley. He's a venture capitalist.
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