AI CEO: People Have No Idea What’s Coming! - Eoghan McCabe

TRIGGERnometry

Konstantin Kisin & Francis Foster

News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.5 • 3.4K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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0:00.0	I'm like a strange CEO in the space in that.
0:05.0	I'm very pro-human.
0:08.0	You're an outlier in that you're very pro-human?
0:11.0	I'm extremely pro-human.
0:13.0	What are your fears surrounding AI?
0:16.0	I do worry that if it develops incredibly quickly and that there are a lot of disaffected youth
0:23.6	that they could reach for socialism.
0:26.6	In defense tech, we'll say that our posture is really bad.
0:30.6	China have more power.
0:32.6	They have the ability to build all of the components that AI needs to do physical work.
0:43.0	The craziest and most kind of Hollywood-esque example of where it gets scary are, you know, AI-powered drones and drone swarms. I don't think we can defend against that.
0:48.5	I really do think there are risks here, but I just want to re-emphasize it's happening.
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1:14.6	Owen, welcome to Trichonomys.
1:16.6	Thank you.
1:17.6	It's great to have you on.
1:18.6	Listen, everywhere we've been traveling around the US now for a few weeks,
1:22.6	everywhere we go, every dinner party, every lunch, every coffee, everywhere, there's only one conversation people are having, which is about AI.
1:31.8	You founded and run an AI company here in San Francisco, which is why we're delighted to have you on.
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