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H.B.R. presents. Hello, I'm Azima Tsar and you're listening to the Exponential View podcast, part of the Harvard Business Review's

HBR presents network. Exponential View is a series of interdisciplinary

conversations with the world's leading thinkers on technology and the

near future. This season is all about the emerging paradigms that will govern every aspect of our lives in the near future.

It's clear that the current rules, both explicit and assumed of today's world, are being destroyed by the on- on store to the tech revolution. So these

conversations have been curated to offer both an insight into the forces that will

underpin our new world and a sense of just how rapid and profound these changes will

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listeners find us. Today's conversation is a challenging one as it touches on some

controversial areas, but my guest, Theoretical physicist Shoe, is no stranger to these types of conversations.

He is a Theoretical Physicist, a successful startup founder, and now the Vice President of

Research at Michigan State University.

For listeners in the United Kingdom, a Vice President is the equivalent to our

Vice Chancellor.

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