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AI and cyber practicum [CISOP]

CyberWire Daily

N2K Networks, Inc.

Daily News, Tech News, News, Technology

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, host Kim Jones examines the rapid rise of enterprise AI and the tension between innovation and protection, sharing an RSA anecdote that highlights both excitement and concern. He outlines the benefits organizations hope to gain from AI while calling out often-overlooked risks like data quality, governance, and accountability. Kim is joined by technologist Tony Gauda to discuss why AI represents a fundamental shift in how systems and decisions are designed. Together, they explore AI-driven operations, cultural barriers to experimentation, and how CISOs can adopt AI responsibly without compromising security. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:11.4

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0:23.1

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0:25.1

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0:28.0

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0:30.5

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0:31.9

without the frustration, friction,

0:34.6

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0:36.1

of managing an endless proliferation of vendors and tools.

0:40.3

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0:46.3

in one integrated solution built for performance, resilience, and scale.

0:51.6

Go to meter.com slash CISOP today to learn more and book your demo.

0:57.5

That's M-E-T-E-R.com slash C-I-S-O-P.

1:02.2

Welcome back to C-O Perspectives.

1:15.7

I'm Kim Jones, and I'm thrilled that you're here for this season's journey.

1:20.4

Throughout this season, we will be exploring some of the most pressing problems facing our industry today

1:25.0

and discussing with experts how we can better address them.

1:29.3

Today we are looking at how rapid innovation around AI can introduce unplanned risks into an enterprise.

1:37.3

Let's get into it.

1:39.3

I was eating dinner with a friend at the RSA conference this year.

1:44.4

After taking the time to catch up, we began to discuss artificial intelligence and its application in most businesses.

1:52.1

My friend is an innovator by nature. As such, his focus tends to be to look at the benefits of a new technology first.

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