Programming Throwdown, Episode 98, Agile Thinking with Zen Hub. Take it away, Jason.

Hey, everyone. So we're here with Aaron Upright, who's a co-founder at Zen Hub.

And, you know, I know Agile is a really common term. I remember even hearing it in university

before even taking any software architecture or software engineering courses, I just become very

ubiquitous.

But a lot of people don't know, you know, really what that means, what it entails.

And so we have Aaron here who's founded a company that part of its core mission revolves around

Agile to kind of dive you know, dive deep with us

and kind of explain what Agile is all about. Yeah. Thank you guys. Yeah. Thank you guys so much for having me. I'm really excited to be on the show today. Cool. Cool. So why don't you tell us a bit about your background? Like what kind of led you to the path that got you here? Yeah. So I work on the go toto-market side of our business, which kind of captures everything from

marketing, sales, success, basically following customers from kind of when they come to

Zen Hub and when they're kind of first interested to using the tool to how we kind of really

make them successful.

And my background actually isn't really typical for a founder of a developer tool company.

You know, I actually did a year of engineering when I was in university, but actually I dropped

out of that program and kind of completely switched what my focus was from an academic perspective.

And for whatever reason, I just found that, you know, academically engineering, you know,

being in an engineering program was a little bit isolating

for me. And I really like the competitive aspect of having to compete against my classmates.

But I love the concept of building things and making things and I was always really fascinated

with technology. And so academically, that led me down the path of actually going to business

school where I finished my degree and it's how I got involved in a lot of the go-to-market sides of Zen Hub. But when I graduated, I was looking for, you know, what is a way that I can apply this in a way that kind of really naturally fits with where my passions are and, you know, really naturally fits with technology? And so the answer for me at the head point in time was saying, hey, could I join a really

small startup or could I join something in the technical space to try to apply what I had

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