Hi, Benchies. I am so excited for you guys to hear today's episode. It's an episode with my friend

Roxy, who's an artist. And the idea for this episode came about because there was this whole

trend on social media of people being like, never turn on the big light. I hate the big light.

They hate these cool overhead lights because they just create a really bad vibe. They don't make you

feel homey. I'm sure everyone's

walked into a big box store and felt the oppressiveness of it. It's creating a viblest world and it's

kind of a form of hostile architecture. So I was talking about this phenomenon with my friend Roxy.

I was ranting about the death of neon, how awful it is that neon lights don't exist anymore.

And she told me she was actually

so passionate about this that she had written a manifesto called the Cool Overhead. It is basically

a manifesto about light, the history of light, why cool overhead lights are evil, how they came about,

their role throughout history. And I said, Roxy, you need to come on the podcast and tell people about this because I think the binchies would love it. So you guys will hear the conversation that we had, which I thought was so interesting, especially during this time period, we know it's winter, the light is going down really early. We're all feeling the absence of it. If you've ever been the kind of person who has screamed when someone's turned on the big light or been very offended by the idea of people turning it on, this episode is for you.

There's such a fascinating history of this and a lot of actual repercussions both health-wise and safety-wise to using these cool overhead lights and all these LED lights.

So I hope you guys like this episode and may we all

be against the big light. Welcome to Binchotopia. We hope you enjoy your stay.

Hi everybody. Welcome back to Binchotopia. I am Julia Hava and I'm so excited to have with me here today, Roxy Jammin. My scholar, my philosopher. Welcome to the podcast. You are one of the rare people in this world who works in a museum. That's not a common character. It's not like a common person that you meet as someone who works in a museum. I feel so tremendously lucky for that to be my job. I have like the world's most dream job at the moment, which is that I curate a museum gift shop.

I feel like everybody wants that job. I feel like that's the dreamer when you're a kid. You're like that would be, like, I would name streets, nail polish colors or be at the museum gift shop. I feel so lucky. It's actually the best job in the entire world. What's the best thing about it? Oh my God. Right now I'm designing an entire, like, ceramics collection. Right. So that's the other thing about Roxy is you are an artist. You are really like my most offline friend, which is crazy. It's like I'm honored that you're on the podcast right now because

Roxy's not an online person. You can't find her. She'll link her website in this bio, but you won't find her on social media because she's not on it. I wouldn't even know what I'm missing. It's just Kind of like, do you like not getting invited to parties?

No, but I mean like you don't use social media.

No.

You also, topic of like, do you like not getting invited to parties? No, but I mean like you don't use social media.

No.

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