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Against Criminogenic Risk w/ Seth Prins (07/13/23)

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4.8588 Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2023

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Bea and Jules speak with Seth Prins about “criminogenic risk assessment,” a set of tools used across the criminal legal system that purports to not only assess an individual's likelihood of criminalized behavior, but to determine the underlying causes of "crime" itself. Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism Death Panel merch here (patrons get a discount code): www.deathpanel.net/merch As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod Find the episode Bea mentions, "Feminist Jails" with Mon M. and Diana Joy, here: https://soundcloud.com/deathpanel/feminist-jails-w-mon-m-and-diana-joy-090822

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Probably one of the greatest accomplishments of neoliberal social science has been its conflation of where individuals fall within a distribution of risk, with where the mean of the entire risk distribution is.

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You're essentially mapping social arrangements and the operation of social systems onto individuals,

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and then claiming that it's inherent to the Death Panel.

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at Death Panel underscore. So today I'm here with my co-host, Jules Gil Peterson.

1:27.7

Hello.

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And we are joined by returning guest and friend of the panel, Seth Prins.

1:41.5

Seth is a psychiatric epidemiologist and assistant professor of epidemiology and sociomedical sciences at Columbia University.

1:45.6

Seth's research centers around the collateral consequences of mass criminalization and mass incarceration for public health and on how the division and structure

1:50.3

of labor affect mental illness and drug use. And we've asked Seth here today to talk to us about

1:56.0

his work on something called criminogenic risk assessment. Seth, welcome back to the show.

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It's so great to have you on the death panel again.

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Thanks so much.

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I'm excited to be back.

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So today, we're going to talk about this supposedly evidence-based data-driven tool

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that the criminal justice system uses to impose efficiency on the processes of identifying, sorting, and targeting criminalized people.

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