Gooday, I'm Gary Stevens.

Welcome to the afterlife of the History in the Bible podcast.

Afterlife Detour Episode 2, Conclave.

Hello people.

Another detour episode.

This time I am with Greg Gassman of many podcasts,

Popular History, Pontifacts and Cardinal Numbers.

You won't find a bigger Pope, aficionado, than Greg.

Greg and I discussed the papal conclave of May 2025.

At the time of recording, the conclave was a few hours away.

This show was meant to be edited some weeks ago, but...

Well, life gets in the way.

The first voice you hear is Greg.

I hope you enjoy the show.

Hello, Gary.

Hi there, Greg. How are you?

Doing well. Long time, no chat. Long time, chat. Yes. I was wondering if you would remember the oath that we took, you know, last time we were together in the podcast of verse to reconvene when the Pope had died, that odd sort of a schedule keeping. You know, I vaguely remember that. And here we are.

And here we are. So let it be written. So let it be done. I thought I'd go a bit easy on you.

And we'd just have a little chat. Thank you. Just kind of catch up. And I know you had seen the

recent Conclave movie. I saw it too. So there may be some discussion relating to that, but also

just general conclave questions, because at this point, you're actually in the day of the

conclave first starting. So you're living in the future.

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