I'm Hello, welcome to Media Roots Radio.

This is Robbie Martin.

Today we have on the podcast, two guests that we've had on before for their wonderful

deep dive investigative book called The Watchdogs Didn't Bark, the CIA NSA and the crimes

of the War on Terror. The authors behind that book, John Duffy and Ray Novosowski, have a new project out called

After the Uprising. It is an I-Heart Radio produced 11-part investigative podcast series, but to call it

a podcast series would be not doing it justice, I think, because like Ray and John's

previous work, such as the podcast, Who is Rich Blee? You could almost call this more of an audio

documentary rather than a podcast because I think it really tends to suck you in and it's not

produced like other podcasts that you may have heard

before. After the uprising follows the story of how 24-year-old Donnier-Jones was found hanging

from a tree in St. Louis County in 2008. And according to the synopsis for after the uprising,

it says that police declared it a suicide.

But as Ferguson frontline activist mother, Melissa, grabbed headlines with her viral post,

alleging her son, had in fact died by lynching.

Who was right?

Starting only six weeks after Donnier died, journalist John Duffy and Ray Novosowski

spent two and a half years working with his mother, family members, close friends and many

in the activist community to follow the trail and find out exactly what happened to him.

So without any further delay, let's just jump right into our interview

with Ray and John, also featuring Abby.

Wow, what a wild ride. I mean, I listened to about half of the episodes. I'm, it's just

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