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The Idaho Massacre

After the Headlines

The Idaho Massacre

iHeartPodcasts

True Crime

3.66.7K Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

In the quiet aftermath of an unthinkable tragedy, the town of Moscow, at the center of the nation’s attention, continues to heal. Through the voices of those who led, grieved, and reported from the heart of the story, this episode examines how a close-knit town and the families affected by a devastating tragedy continue to navigate loss and uncertainty. 

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0:00.0

This was a case with shocking violence.

0:07.6

I, like everyone else, wanted answers.

0:12.0

Somebody needs to speak for Moscow, and that turned out to be me.

0:17.6

We're strong and we're not going to let whatever you want to refer to him as break up our

0:22.4

family or make us cold or harden our hearts.

0:31.3

This is the Idaho Massacre, a production of KT Studios and IHeart Radio.

0:43.3

Season 3, Episode 11, after the headlines. I'm Courtney Armstrong, a producer at KT Studios with Stephanie Leidiker, Alison Bankston, and Gabriel Castillo.

0:50.3

After Brian Kauberger pled guilty last July, his name and face have slowly begun to fade from the headlines.

0:58.0

News feeds every hour of every day have grown quiet.

1:03.0

The horror he unleashed at the University of Idaho still cast a shadow.

1:08.0

But finally, it's starting to drift into the distance.

1:13.6

We've been reporting on the Brian Kopbaker case since the very beginning.

1:17.6

From that first breaking news alert to every twist in turn that followed,

1:22.6

and now, as his story reaches its final chapter, ours does too.

1:35.2

In this episode, we hear from Moscow mayor, Art Betke, on how his town, once bucolic and quiet,

1:41.9

was forever changed on November 13, 2022, and how they're finding ways to move forward.

1:47.0

We're also joined again by Kaylee Gonsalves' brother, Stephen, who shares what it's been like for his family,

1:50.0

now that the case is finally over.

1:53.0

But first, Stephanie Leidecker, crime analyst body Movin,

1:56.0

and I reflect on our own journeys throughout this story,

2:00.0

and how covering the murders of Madison Mogan, Kaylee Gonzalez, Zana Kurnodal, and

2:05.9

Ethan Chapin have affected each of us.

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