Welcome to After the Fact and Knowing Faith mini episode where we look to take a big question

and address it in just a few minutes. Typically the questions we consider will line up with our

larger topic for the season. That's certainly true for our time today. We're discussing Genesis 12

through 50 on Knowing Faith this season and joining us today is Dr. Donald Whitney. Dr. Whitney

is professor of biblical spirituality and an associate dean of the School of Theology at the

Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He's the author of numerous books including the incredible

influential book Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life which I can say could be

confidently called a modern day classic along with praying the Bible and numerous others that I

strongly encourage you to check out. Dr. Whitney welcomed after the fact. Thanks for joining us.

Thanks Kyle. Great to be with you. It's an honor to be a guest on your podcast today.

Here's the big question for us, Dr. Whitney. What does Abraham's prayer for Sodom teach us or show

us about intercession? There's almost just like a negotiation that goes on. Lord, how about 50?

How about 40? How about 30? How about 20? You know down like that. And it's been suggested that Abraham

is is counting as he's doing this because you have he's thinking, okay, there's a lot. There's

his wife. They have two sons. They're both married. So now we're up to eight and then two unmarried

daughters. So 10. So when he gets down to 10, you know, that's why he stops at 10. But the pattern

has been established here that God will not destroy the righteous. And of course we know that apart

from Christ, no one is righteous. And so his justice is always right. I mean, this is near the

place in the Bible there where it says, shall the judge of all the earth, you know, not do right.

That in fact, it's in verse 25 here. Shall not the judge of all the earth do what is just? He will.

Our problem is, you know, what, what does that justice look like and do we deserve it? But he

intercedes here and just keeps kind of changing going from one thing to another. If we were to do

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