Hey this is JT. I'm here with Jen and we are recording and after the fact this is a time we have the opportunity to address some practical issues that we don't get to get to in the Knowing

Faith Podcast so excited to be here with you Jen.

Good to be here JT. Okay so I've got to tell you I've got a four in a two year old at home

they are the delight of my life Thomas and Bailey English but also I've got to tell you

something else parenting is hard.

What are you talking about, your big winers, easiest thing in the world?

Like I feel like I go for moments of like deep happiness

to like, what am I doing?

I'm not even sure I'm gonna to make in the next five minutes.

So Jen, one of the things I've heard you talk about and teach about regularly is just you have some really wise parenting advice.

If I could, and I'll say this too, because I know they listen, your kids are just, they're incredible.

They love the Lord, they love each other, they loved your family, so I think there's so many of us around you are just like, can we somehow replicate the woken household? We just love y'all. And here I've got this four and two-year-old that I'm trying to shape and form.

What are some common pitfalls that maybe you see somebody like me or may see others just falling into

as we do try to be good parents?

Well first of all we're not a perfect family. Everybody has their stuff, right?

But we have enjoyed some really sweet dynamics.

You're talking about Jeff, right?

Yes, Jeff is my ace in the hole all things parenting for sure.

Yesterday you were saying they listened to the podcast yesterday I texted Calvin

and I was like I love you and I think about you all the time and he texted back

I'm listening to you right now and I was like I want to go that doesn't count as a phone call you have to call your mother. I wanted to go, that doesn't count as a phone call.

You have to call your mother.

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