Welcome to Knowing Faith After the Fact, an opportunity for us to talk just J.T. Jen, me, whoever's in the room about some issue that maybe feels a little bit more at home, a little bit more practical for us to get into the way that the Christian story and Christian belief

applies to all of life and so I'm here with Jen hey Jen hey and I've got a question

for you so we know a lot of listeners are involved in women's Bible studies

maybe they're looking to launch Women's Bible Studies, they lead

women's Bible Studies, or they have, maybe they've been in a women's Bible study

got burnt in our life, don't want to go back. So what are some of the things

that you've learned about kind of the dynamics, social dynamics that are unique to women's Bible study?

Just like if you were if you were kind of given a cookbook of like here's some things that are outside of just the Bible, the text, and some curriculum,

they feel like, I think this would be helpful

when you're thinking about building, leading, managing

women's Bible study.

Yeah, I think a lot of times leaders

in a women's ministry are tempted to ask the wrong first question.

They ask what do our women want?

And probably a better starting point, not probably,

I'm using a nice tone, a better starting point is to ask how our disciples formed.

And then as women who are looking for how to do ministry specifically in single gender

environments, then you ask some follow-up questions. What are the obstacles that particularly present in single gender settings,

in all female settings, that might not be the same set of obstacles in say an all male setting or a mixed gender

setting.

And when talking about this, I always like to be very clear that I am for both kinds of environments.

I think we should have places where women are

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