This is after the fact and I'm Kyle Williamson here with Jen.

Hey Jen. Hey Kyle, how's it going? It's going pretty well. Great. We've got some

coffee yeah so we're the energy is moving forward. Got a little breakfast down the

hat I'm feeling perky.

Great.

So one of the questions I'm always fascinated by or who are someone's like most formative influence?

Theologically.

So when you think about the work that you've done, writing, teaching,

leading, speaking, building, I mean you've done so much in your ministry career who have been the most

formative theological voices on your life?

Oh man, I, hands down R.C. Sproll and I came across him, actually Jeff found him, my husband

found him before I did.

He was commuting and happened to find the radio program

and he started introducing me to some of that.

And then I got a couple of his books.

And he was sort of the gateway drug for me into theology. I went from

there to I think I've mentioned on the show before that for my 30th birthday Jeff

bought me Louis Berkov's systematic theology and I start

reading that and reading footnotes I started reading I found Berkov through

through Sproll's footnotes I also through Spruill's Footnotes. I also through Sprull's Footnotes found a

David Tozier and I found through Tosure I found Charnock Stephen Charnock and

Arthur Pink yeah and just have and then another person that I found actually

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