Shockwaves felt throughout the Jewish world and beyond after the horrific attack in Sydney.

We will hear our listeners from around the world and be speaking to Rabbi David Walpy

and a very sad goodbye to one of the greatest American directors and a mensch, Rob Reiner.

It's unholy. I'm Yin Nealvi in Tel Aviv.

And I'm Jonathan Friedland in London.

Unholy, two Jews on the news.

Well, we did our special update, didn't we, earlier on in the week, straight after the news came from Sydney,

I think it was just a few hours later.

And it's obviously been one of those things that we've all been thinking about ever since,

where kind of wherever you are.

And not just this event itself, but the fact that it is no longer exceptional.

It no longer can be called a sort of one-off aberrational event.

It was, it's actually amazing to me because I thought it was longer, but it was only two months ago that we were talking in the aftermath of the Yom Kippur attack in Manchester in England in October.

And so two of these in the space of two months.

I mean, it's, so it's, there's the grief and the immediate reaction to Sydney.

And then there's this getting to grips with what may be a new normal.

Yeah, I mean, it feels like a nightmare coming true, doesn't it?

In the sense that it really does feel like it's a defining moment.

I think of the events during these past two years, right?

That was Washington, D.C. and there was Boulder, Colorado.

And there was Manchester, as you mentioned. and there was Boulder, Colorado. And there was

Manchester, as you mentioned. All of them horrific. This feels different. It feels different because

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