Hello, welcome back to After Reality. It's your host, Courtney Robertson here.

Today's guest is reality TV royalty. You first met her on season 13 of The Bachelor, where she stole the show and made history at After the Final Rose.

She's now been married to her bachelor for 15 years. She's a proud mom, a stepmom, a total real estate rock star,

and former radio host. Please welcome the fabulous, unforgettable, the one and only Molly

Mesnick. It's quite an intro. I don't know if I'm Bachelor TV royalty, but I'm something. You, uh, you absolutely are. And you've, I've seen you on Jen's season. You came back to do that. I mean, you've, you've been at the, what was it, the wedding? You were at the wedding. Yeah, we like, we've been so set. Well, I mean, we'll get into all of it. But we were so far removed from that world. And for some reason last year, we got thrown back in, like out of nowhere. Yeah, that's what happens with me. And that's what I also want to talk to you about today. Because I feel like you and I are like kind of from the OG era where there wasn't social media. I mean, call it what you want. Like, there for the right reasons.

And like, I took time away from the franchise after my season, but I always get sucked back in.

And now, your mom, I'm a mom. I also do real estate on the side as well. But I find myself, like, do I watch this season?

Like, it's just so part of my life. And I've really been struggling watching this latest season of Paradise. And I'm curious to see your thoughts on that. And I feel like maybe I've aged out of it a little bit. And there's part of me that's just like I don't know that I want it in my orbit anymore. So that's kind of something I've been dealing

with. But I get these, you know, I got invited back for Zach Shelfcroft season. Yeah.

The appearance view is kind of nice. Yeah. I know. We removed ourselves from that world, God,

years ago. Like, obviously after our season, we got asked to do things often because we were still

fresh.

But there's, like, always a new breed of people coming in.

And I guess it was maybe like there's, there was one interview we did during COVID,

actually.

It was in 2020.

We did some TV show with Andy Cohen.

And it was like a history of reality TV. And I hated how the

interview went. Oh, that's the worst. Jason after. And I was like, I'm done. I'm not doing this anymore.

Like I, we are so far removed. I hardly even remember being on TV. We get asked the same questions,

which is so annoying. I'm like, I don't want to do it anymore. I'm done with that chapter. I'm closing it. And so every podcast request, every, everything, I said no to. I was like, nope, I've moved on. And then we got asked to go to the golden wedding. And I was like, okay. Royalty. Pretty innocent. It's like just being a guest at a wedding, we don't have to do anything special.

But being at the wedding, I felt really uncomfortable and like out of my element because there were all these like young people.

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