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Intelligence Squared

After Putin: The Coup That Wasn’t

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🗓️ 27 June 2023

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Are Vladimir Putin's days numbered? Or is the Russian leader as strong as ever? New from Intelligence Squared we bring you a subscriber exclusive series 'After Putin' where we explore whether after twenty three years of rule in Russia Putin's time in power is coming to an end. Through interviews with policy-makers, military personnel, journalists and academics, we reflect on whether a mutiny led by Yevgeny Prighozin's Wagner forces on Saturday June 24 2023 has set the wheels in motion for a Russia without Putin and what could come next.  In this first episode we're joined by Anne Applebaum and Owen Matthews to discuss whether Putin has lost control.  The episode is hosted and produced by Conor Boyle.  Clips from: MSNBC, DW News, Sky News Music: - 220522 piano loop by donaldtimo The first two episodes will be available to all, here on the Intelligence Squared podcast. If you'd like to listen the rest of the series head to intelligencesquared.com/membership or subscribe to our channel on Apple Podcasts — We’d love to hear your feedback and what you think we should talk about next, who we should have on and what our future debates should be.  Send us an email or voice note with your thoughts to podcasts@intelligencesquared.com or Tweet us @intelligence2.  And if you’d like to support our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations, as well as ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content, early access and much more, become a supporter of Intelligence Squared today. Just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, this is Jeremy Bowen, the International Editor of BBC News and I'm here because I want

0:05.1

to talk to you about an event I'm doing with Intelligent Squared on the 2nd of November in London

0:11.5

and I'm going to be talking about the more than 30 years that I've spent reporting on major

0:17.6

events in the Middle East with my great friend and colleague over many, many years just in web

0:25.6

and I'm sure we'll talk about a few other things as well just in and I started at the BBC

0:31.5

on the same day in 1984. So if you'd like to join us either in person or online then visit

0:41.6

IntelligentSquared.com to find out more. Welcome to After Putin, a new podcast series from Intelligent

0:49.6

Squared. Until Friday, June 23rd, the question of what comes after Putin had been largely academic.

0:56.8

It felt distant hypothetical but by the following evening it had become one of the most urgent

1:02.0

and important questions in the world today. In this series we speak to experts and look for some

1:07.1

answers. I'm Connor Boyle. Part 1 is available freely here and if you'd like to hear Part 2,

1:13.6

become a member of Intelligent Squared by hitting subscribe in the Apple Podcasts app

1:18.4

or heading over to IntelligentSquared.com slash membership to support our work.

1:23.1

If you're a member you'll also get access to more episodes of this series over the coming days

1:28.2

which will be only available to subscribers. But now let's go to episode 1, the coup that wasn't.

1:38.8

We are following breaking news out of Russia where you've getting pregoes the leader of the

1:42.7

Wagner Mercenary Group says that his forces have left Ukraine and are headed into Russia.

1:57.1

We just want to reuse breaking news on the developments in Russia. We're getting quite a few

2:02.0

news lines coming into us here amongst them. The criminal saying that avoiding bloodshed was more

2:08.8

important than punishing people and the criminal saying that it does not know where pregoation is now.

2:29.6

Hello, I'm Connor and welcome to Intelligent Squared. Our guests they are Ann Applebaum,

2:34.9

staff writer at the Atlantic and Pulitzer Prize-winning historian. Her books include Goulag,

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