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Justice Matters with Glenn Kirschner

After Pardoning the "Boots" of the Insurrection, Trump Pardons the "Suits" of the Insurrection!

Justice Matters with Glenn Kirschner

Crossover Media Group

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4.82.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump just issued 77 pardons, including for six individuals who were unindicted co-conspirators in Trump's federal criminal indictment for his efforts to steal the 2020 presidential election.

Trump has now pardoned Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman, Sidney Powell, Jeffrey Clark, Kenneth Chesebro, Boris Epstein, Jenna Ellis, Mark Meadows and many others.

This feels like a recruiting effort by Trump. He seems to be calling all insurrectionists to join him in future efforts to interfere in America's elections, sending the signal that he will pardon them if they join his criminal conspiracy.

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0:00.0

It's time for Justice Matters with former federal prosecutor and legal analyst Glenn Kirshman.

0:15.3

Donald Trump has issued 77 pardons.

0:19.6

Glenn has the story next on Justice Matters.

0:28.2

Hi, I'm John Fuglesing.

0:29.8

And I'm Professor Corey Brechtner.

0:31.6

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0:34.1

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0:38.3

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0:42.6

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0:47.5

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0:51.4

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0:56.7

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0:58.9

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1:01.2

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1:03.0

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1:10.1

Hey all. Glenn Kirshner here.

1:11.6

So friends, Donald Trump appears to be using the pardon power in an attempt to build a team of criminals, put together tomorrow's conspiracy, maybe to make sure he never has to leave power?

1:31.0

Let's start with the new reporting.

1:34.0

This from NBC News.

1:36.4

Headline, Trump pardons Rudy Giuliani and others who were involved in efforts to overturn the 2020 election. The pardons may be largely symbolic,

1:48.6

as none of the people listed were convicted of federal crimes, which the presidential pardon covers.

1:55.8

Friends, I see it differently. I don't think these were merely symbolic pardons, but please put a pin in that.

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