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Full Measure After Hours

After Hours: Dead or Alive

Full Measure After Hours

Sharyl Attkisson

News Commentary, News

4.91.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 14 minutes

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With a million dollars per body in play, some in Congress are asking whether some authorities are too quick to declare an organ donor to be “dead.” Order Sharyl’s new bestselling book: “Follow the $cience.” Subscribe to my two podcasts: “The Sharyl Attkisson Podcast” and “Full Measure After Hours.” Leave a review, subscribe and share with your friends! Support independent journalism by visiting the new Sharyl Attkisson store. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

It's Cheryl Ackison. Welcome to another edition of Full Measure After Hours.

0:09.0

Today, dead or alive? With a million dollars per body in play, some in Congress are asking whether some authorities are too quick to declare an organ donor to be dead.

0:24.1

You're in for another fascinating topic this week. Since 1988, more than a half million U.S.

0:30.7

organ donors have made 1.1 million transplants possible. 170 million Americans are registered donors, yet more than 100,000 people, still wait.

0:42.1

Organ procurement organizations, OPO's, are non-profits, kind of middlemen, tasked with

0:48.7

managing, removal, and transfer.

0:51.6

But major investigations and insider whistleblowers have exposed some disturbing

0:57.1

cases involving the gift of life. Take the alarming case of T.J. Hoover in 2021. Hoover was declared

1:05.2

brain dead after a drug overdose. In the hospital, as an organ donor, he was prepped for organ donation, but repeatedly

1:13.6

showed signs of life. According to a whistleblower, then with the Kentucky organ donor affiliates,

1:20.6

this was in Kentucky, the Kentucky organ donor affiliates are CODA, T.J. woke up during a process. The whistleblower says the process

1:30.1

of checking his heart for suitability for donation. He was paralyzed and sedated when he woke up,

1:37.3

taken back to ICU and the family never told what happened, never told that he woke up.

1:46.0

T.J. Hoover was still pushed toward organ removal. According to the whistleblower, during that honor walk that you may see sometimes on

1:52.7

video where organ donors are wheeled through the hospital on their way to the procedure,

1:58.1

during his honor walk, T.J. says the whistleblower woke up even more.

2:03.0

It was more responsive, tracking with his eyes looking around. But the family was told by the

2:08.8

representative with the Kentucky organ donor affiliates or CODA that this was just reflexes.

2:15.5

The whistleblower said that's not true. He was waking up. She says when they got him to the

2:21.3

OR, TJ was pulling his knees up to his chest, crying, trying to pull out his tubes,

2:27.4

visibly upset and aware of what was going on. What happened then, she says, doctors administered

2:33.6

morphine to calm him down, and there were moves to go ahead and continue.

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