This is a clip from the After Dark Show with Don Rogers.

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What was that moment or moments that were the catalyst when you started to realize that things

weren't exactly what were told?

Because for the most part, a lot of us are brought in and, you know, given that, you know, this is your name, this is your religion, this is your race, this is a blah.

And there's that basic human story.

And a lot of us just stay stuck in it and don't look outside of it.

What was the moment or moments that kind of made you start to look outside of what you

were being told?

Well, when I was in the Air Force, the master sergeant said that we're not allowed to go on a certain

area of the base.

And he said that they'll actually shoot at you.

And if you keep going, they'll actually wound you or kill you.

If you go on a certain area of the base.

And he said that there's an underground facility with a independent company who owns that land and they're operating underground

performing biochemical experiments and chemical experiments.

So it's a chemical or biochemical company.

And before that, I had heard Alex Jones say that there were underground bases.

So I was getting confirmation in real life that these things are real.

Then, we fast forward about five years after that, I had, I had a, that's when I had an actual awakening,

where the fifth dimension came to me.

So I was sitting in my room and the entire, the room disappeared and it was an entirely new planet.

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