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This is a clip from the After Dark Show with Don Rogers.

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What was it like as you were growing up with your native beliefs and your spiritual understanding? Because those two things would overlap in them probably not overlap in a lot of ways.

And I was just wondering what that's like. Well, it's funny that you should ask that because I was

just thinking about this today is that my parents were, um, they were put in residential boarding

schools as children. My father started when he was about five. My mother

was in boarding schools when she was about first grade. And she ended, or they didn't believe she

was in first grade, so they made her redo kindergarten again because she was so tiny. But my,

my grandparents, except for my dad's dad, had all passed away and they were put into boarding schools and, you know, separated because what they were trying to do is they were trying to take the culture away from the children, you know, so that, you know, they could only speak English. So when they went home,

they couldn't understand their own families. You know, they were trying to pull that culture and all,

you know, the language, the ceremonies, everything away from them. And so my parents, when they graduated from the boarding school system,

most everybody kind of, you know, you're so used to that, almost like a setting where you're in a

controlled setting. Now my father went into the military at the age of 17. And my mother was part of a different program where she was like, you know, they used to have,

they called them the snatch generation where they would come in and take your children.

But for some reason, she was allowed to keep hers.

So I don't really understand that because, you know, most everybody lost

their kids. If you weren't married, I think she had her marriage annulled and she had two children.

So they looked at her as being, you know, a single mom. But my father did the four or five years in

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