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You've alluded to it a couple of times that if you choose to believe these things or practice these things, kind of looked at it as an outsider in society.

And you and I were talking about something before, and it's from a television show, but it was

eloquently explained in a cartoon of all things

that society is slavery with extra steps.

It's just you working for a guy to pay for a house who's paying for his thing.

I would love to get into, like, is what me and spin want to do consider the type of

narcissism because we want to go almost as far off grid and away from society we want to

be those people that are barely in what we're supposed to be because we've we've seen what

it is we've seen what it is.

We've actually seen the ugly little trap.

And it's like, no, as soon as we can leave, we are.

Right.

If we can be like yourself, if we can become self-sustained outside of the system,

bye, right?

So is that a Gnostic viewpoint or belief system? Or is that, I guess, I guess, yeah, a certain liberal interpretation, sure.

But it's, there's people who still, the main catch isn't what you're doing.

It's about why you're doing what you're doing and how you see yourself in what you're doing is so let's put it this way

there are the preper types that are like i need to have my guns

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