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It's a conversation Devinger Hardwar had with filmmaker Kelvin Redvers.

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Hey everyone, it's Devinder here, and I've got something a little special for this after dark.

It'll just be me chatting with Kelvin Redvers, who's an indigenous Canadian

producer and film director who reached out to us both as a fan of the film cast, but also somebody who has a lot of thoughts about Killers of the Flower Moon

and the way indigenous peoples are represented in media. Listeners of Conan O'Brien's

podcast may also remember him as the guy who thought it would be

intolerable to bring Conan camping and you know what I'd probably agree there

Calvin has been featured at film festivals he's won awards at a young age. He co-created the Canadian

series Hierarchic Collars, which is about getting supplies to remote communities in northern Canada.

And he also has a movie coming up called Cold Road, is sort of like you know Stephen Spielberg's

dual but set on an icy road in a northern Canadian region. We had a great chat

about representation in media the sort of work he's doing and his

thoughts and killers of the Flower Moon of course, and Calvin also has some choice

words for Martin Scorsese, certainly better than some of the other

interviewers I think. But overall it's a really really

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