After a Year of Survival, How to Start Living Again
How To! with Mike Pesca
Peach Fish Projects
4.3 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 15 June 2021
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
For the past year, Brandon has been terrified of leaving his apartment. And so he's settled into an extreme pandemic routine. He cooks all of his own meals, has yet to see his parents, and on the rare occasion he takes the trash out, still wears double masks, rubber gloves and safety goggles. Brandon has been fully vaccinated for weeks now but the very low risk of a breakthrough Covid case seems like a grave danger because a few years ago he suffered another incredibly rare viral infection. On this episode of How To!, we bring on economist Tim Harford, author of The Data Detective and host of the podcast Cautionary Tales, and clinical psychologist and Stanford professor Debra Kaysen to help Brandon work through his anxiety—from a statistical and an emotional perspective. Most of us feel varying levels of anxiety about getting back to "normal," but Tim and Debra's advice can help us reframe risk and find coping strategies to get back out there.
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| 0:30.3 | So since March 2020, I haven't eaten a single meal that I did not cook myself. |
| 0:37.0 | So no takeout, no restaurants. |
| 0:39.8 | I still stay inside pretty much every day, except once every week and a half. |
| 0:46.2 | I'll go outside to take out the trash. |
| 0:48.3 | And when I do, I still wear two masks, gloves, goggles, |
| 0:53.1 | and I still spend a lot of time kind of washing my hands |
| 0:56.9 | and cleaning myself afterwards. |
| 1:00.0 | Welcome to how to. I'm science writer David Epstein. For about a year and a half now, we've waited |
| 1:06.7 | for the day we could hug family members and friends. And while the pandemic is still ravaging other parts of the world, |
| 1:12.6 | here in the U.S., we're fortunate to have cautiously turned a corner. |
| 1:16.6 | As more people have gotten vaccinated and the CDC eased restrictions, |
| 1:20.6 | we've been able to start getting back to normal, whatever that means. |
| 1:24.6 | But what about if that getting back to normal is anxiety-inducing itself? |
| 1:29.3 | We're out of practice at being social, never mind not jumping every time a stranger sneezes near us. |
| 1:35.3 | Our listener this week is struggling on that front. |
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