After a historic week, a Conversation with Rachel and Jon Goldberg-Polin

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Yonit Levi, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Jews, Religion & Spirituality, Israel, Jewish, Judaism, Israel Podcast, Middle East, Jonathan Freedland, Documentary

4.7 • 770 Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Meet us at Unholy Live NYC - October 29th, 2025 - with very special guests, Secretary Hillary Rodham Clinton and Dr. Keren Yarhi-Milo https://streicker.nyc/events/unholy-live Follow us on social media: https://linktr.ee/unholypod Join our Patreon community to get access to bonus episodes, discounts on merch and more: https://bit.ly/UnholyPatreon As families welcome home the released hostages, relief is shadowed by grief. Yonit and Jonathan explore the emotional terrain of joy and sorrow that defines this moment — for the families, for Israel, and for those still waiting. They examine what the return means for the hostage community, the political fallout facing Israel’s leadership, and the uneasy path ahead in its dealings with Hamas. Plus: a conversation with Rachel and Jon Goldberg-Polin, whose son Hersh was kidnapped from the Nova festival and murdered by Hamas in Gaza. They talk about the past week, the road to recovery, Donald Trump, and the future of Israel.

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0:00.0	The end of an extraordinary week, the living Israeli hostages are all back home.
0:06.6	There is argument raging about the return of those hostages who are dead.
0:13.9	Donald Trump makes a sweeping trip of the Middle East.
0:17.4	The questions are building.
0:19.4	Will the ceasefire hold? And will phase two of this agreement
0:23.9	ever happen? Plus, we will be speaking to two people who understand the experience of those
0:31.3	hostage families intimately. John and Rachel Goldberg-Pollin. It's Unholy. I'm Jonathan Friedland in London.
0:40.3	And I'm You Nate Levy in Tel Aviv.
0:52.2	Unholy, two Jews on the news.
0:54.6	Before anything else, we should say that you and I will be live in New York City on October 29th.
1:00.9	That's right around the corner at the Stryker Center, Temple Emmanuel, and our guests were very, very happy about this.
1:07.0	Jonathan, would you like to say or I'll say?
1:09.0	It is a very big deal.
1:11.0	We have a major guest in New York, the former senator of the great state of New York,
1:17.8	former Secretary of State, former First Lady, drumroll, please.
1:23.8	There's only one woman who answers to all those kids, checks all the boxes,
1:27.1	ticks all the boxes on that, Secretary Hillary Clinton and Dr. Karen Yachie Milo, who is the dean of the School of International and Public Affairs at Columbia.
1:35.9	They edited a book together called Inside the Situation Room.
1:39.9	It's about leadership and about decisions.
1:42.2	It is very timely, I would say, to talk to them about all these issues. And we're very, very excited that they will be joining us. Anyone else who would like to join us? We shall say that all information about tickets are in the show notes. It is. If you are in New York or in the tri-state area, as I think they say, why not travel to the Stryker Centre, October 29th?
2:03.6	It's unholy live.
2:05.0	People who saw our show in London know we do put on a show
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