African Wild Dogs, Spotted Lanternfly, Seashells. July 9, 2021, Part 1
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🗓️ 9 July 2021
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| 0:00.0 | This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. One of the most endangered mammals on the planet is the African |
| 0:06.1 | wild dog. There are only perhaps 6,000 left in all of sub-Saharan Africa. And as their habitat gets |
| 0:14.1 | broken up by more human settlements, they're learning that an easy source of food is, well, farm animals like goats and cattle, |
| 0:22.7 | which, it turns out, results in a not so great outcome for the wild dogs. |
| 0:27.9 | Producer Christy Taylor interviewed a researcher working on exactly this problem. |
| 0:32.7 | Hey there, Christy. |
| 0:34.0 | Hey there, Ira. |
| 0:35.1 | You know, if I were an endangered animal trying to get by, it seems like eating a farmer's goat would be like a brilliant idea. I mean, it's a good source of food. |
| 0:44.6 | You would think so, Ira. Unfortunately, it turns out that when you are a farmer and you have a predator eating the source of your livelihood, it's actually a very natural response to try to kill that predator. |
| 0:55.5 | And farmers who often use poison are actually a really big problem for African wild dogs |
| 1:00.1 | and even other carnivores like lions and jackals. So a lot of researchers are actually working on ways |
| 1:05.3 | to keep these carnivores away from livestock in order to keep them all alive. Yeah, I see what you're talking about. So tell us a |
| 1:12.6 | little bit about your story. Sure. I talked to Gabby Fleury, who is an early career scientist who |
| 1:18.0 | is up to all kinds of cool stuff. They've done research in Namibia, South Africa, and Kenya, |
| 1:23.1 | and they are a Fulbright scholar with an upcoming research project in Botswana. Wow, sounds like a lot of frequent flyer miles. |
| 1:29.9 | Yeah, I'm not going to lie, Gabby's work sounds amazingly cool to me. |
| 1:33.7 | And it's all in the name of finding technology tricks to keep livestock safe from African wild dogs and other big endangered carnivores, |
| 1:41.0 | which, as I mentioned, will keep those carnivores themselves alive and |
| 1:44.9 | thriving. And I started by asking Gabby how they first got interested in carnivore conservation. |
| 1:50.6 | Yeah, so I've always known I wanted to become a conservation biologist. I knew from the age of three. |
| 1:55.0 | I'm not sure if I watched too much Captain Planet or too much Lion King. Probably one of the two. |
| 1:59.9 | But it's something I've always wanted to do. |
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